when people talked to me and said please tell obama this, please tell obama that. the notion that we have that kind of power is only a little bit misleading, but on the security issue it does not make sense. >> cenk: i think it does. i think it does, and i'll tell you why, and this is controversial. but i think we want to create more people who are going to fight us because it is a way for defense contractors to get more wars to make more money. otherwise it makes no sense at all. every scholar, every person looking at this issue says, what are you doing? when you kill innocent civilians you're creating more people who are going to fight us. i think a lot of defense contractors look at it and go, exactly. >> i don't know if i can go that dark. >> cenk: that's zero dark thirty thirty. >> yes, certainly it's a horrific policy. for brennan to go on a clip and say there are no civilian casualties, that was three weeks after one of the worst drone attacks where over 45 people were killed sitting out in public that clearly weren't terrorists. >> cenk: i don't think inter